What will happen to gw1? - Guild Wars Forums

Garet1337 · Aug 29, 2010, 05:50 AM // 05:50

I'm probably not going to buy gw 2 because I don't agree with some of anets choices with gw 1 ( like removing half of PvP ) and don't feel like spending another $200 + just to see that happen again.

I just came back to guild wars a little bit ago and noticed the server problems and ( me being a PvPer ) how dead the game is becoming. What will happen in about a year after gw 2 comes out? Will gw 1 still even be playable? Will anet just give up on gw ( skill balances, game fixes, take servers down )

To all of u buying gw 2 good luck and I hope anet doesn't screw you over like they have me

Sorry if someone has posted this b4/ if I posted this in the wrong section. Did this on my iPod and didn't feel like zooming in

Missing HB · Aug 29, 2010, 06:56 AM // 06:56

Looking at the number of updates since 2008 , i don't really think gw1 will be changed much after gw2 is released. And , considering the updates we're getting in gw1 pvp , i'd suggest to only play pve in gw2 ( dervish update coming soon , which will for sure not change anything in pvp ..)

Divine Ashes · Aug 29, 2010, 07:01 AM // 07:01

First off, your reason for not wanting Guild Wars 2 is a fallacy. Hero Battles and Team Arenas were removed for good reason, and although they were replaced with something not as great (....Codex....), you can't expect that the same thing will happen with Guild Wars 2. Also, if something like that WERE to happen in GW2, it wouldn't be until years after release...and I'd say a game that you can play consistently and be entertained with for 2, 3, 4, or even 5 years is well worth the measly 200$ (don't even know about GW2 expansions yet, so 200$ may be completely off anyways). That being said, Guild Wars is an old game. I imagine it would end up being a little like Diablo 2, which even after a decade of servers being up is still running and still being updated (although very sporadically). People will still play and the servers will no doubt still be up, although the PvP community would no doubt be rather dead. I imagine people would still play to get HoM accomplishments to transfer to GW2 (depends on the rewards, really), just to play the storyline, participate in the tourneys, title grind, etc. It's still a good game, and is balanced well enough that it will have lasting appeal for years to come, even if there are rarely any more updates.

Franksalot · Aug 29, 2010, 07:25 AM // 07:25

blah blah not buying gw2 cause of the state of gw1 even though its a totally different game and now gw1 is dead... wish people would stop spouting this out -_-

Judge GW2 for GW2 and there are still many many people playing GW1
thread is pointless close it.

Pleikki · Aug 29, 2010, 08:38 AM // 08:38

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Originally Posted by Divine Ashes

First off, your reason for not wanting Guild Wars 2 is a fallacy. Hero Battles and Team Arenas were removed for good reason, and although they were replaced with something not as great (....Codex....), you can't expect that the same thing will happen with Guild Wars 2. Also, if something like that WERE to happen in GW2, it wouldn't be until years after release...and I'd say a game that you can play consistently and be entertained with for 2, 3, 4, or even 5 years is well worth the measly 200$ (don't even know about GW2 expansions yet, so 200$ may be completely off anyways). That being said, Guild Wars is an old game. I imagine it would end up being a little like Diablo 2, which even after a decade of servers being up is still running and still being updated (although very sporadically). People will still play and the servers will no doubt still be up, although the PvP community would no doubt be rather dead. I imagine people would still play to get HoM accomplishments to transfer to GW2 (depends on the rewards, really), just to play the storyline, participate in the tourneys, title grind, etc. It's still a good game, and is balanced well enough that it will have lasting appeal for years to come, even if there are rarely any more updates.

This sums it up really

Iuris · Aug 29, 2010, 10:00 AM // 10:00

GW1 was always meant to be played for a while and then left for other games while the taste was still good. Everyone who plays it when he's already bored with it (including me, can't give the bloody thing up...) is essentially playing it wrong.

TheodenKing · Aug 29, 2010, 10:25 AM // 10:25

OP: Maybe you can trade your gw account on runescape. Get over it, dude. Some things didn't work, some things did. Overall they did a great job with gw. What they've released about gw2 so far has most of us excited. But in the end, until we play it, we won't really know if it will be worth it.

LoneManWolf · Aug 29, 2010, 12:48 PM // 12:48

personally i agree with the op
i won't ever purchase another ncsoft/anet game ever again
aion looked like fun but just b/c it was made by that crappy company i refuse to purchase it
they lost me with their horrible service
3 1/2 weeks to get my account password back with every single proof they required given the first 2 hours...
3 1/2 weeks... fail
the service of the company is crap
as far as the ingame updates and such... personally i think they have shot this game to shit

Garet1337 · Aug 29, 2010, 12:53 PM // 12:53

I like how really only 2 people actualy answer the question xD my opinion is my opinion and this isn't a how will gw 2 do thread, but still I like peoples reasoning... so I guess if I didn't like Microsoft I should still buy their next version of windows instead of moving to apple? If I had a problem with gw 1 i would stop playing it, it's not the game I don't like it's the company

. Of course there are other reasons I'm not getting it like I wouldn't b able to invest much time into the game cause of school and work.

So can we actualy go back to the question about gw 1?

Garet1337 · Aug 29, 2010, 01:06 PM // 13:06

oh just thought I'd throw this in there since people r still going to talk about not buying a franchise based on previous games, let's say I bought idk Halo and Halo 2 and I didn't like them, I should still buy the rest of the Halo series just cause it's a new game and not judge em on how the previous games were? Maybe I should see the new twilight movies coming out and not judge cause the first look like they r made for preteen girls...

Mintha Syl · Aug 29, 2010, 01:33 PM // 13:33

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Originally Posted by Garet1337

What will happen in about a year after gw 2 comes out? Will gw 1 still even be playable? Will anet just give up on gw ( skill balances, game fixes, take servers down )

We don't know what will happen, as we don't have powers to see in the future, afaik

They promised to keep the servers up as long as there's people playing. For sure, as a lot of people will move to gw2, difficulties playing with other people will increase a lot. But I really hope the devs won't abandon the game completely and still give attention to it, as happened with other games (see Divine Ashes's post).
Personally, I'm not moving so I'll stay, and lot of other people plan to do the same or switch between them. Also, probably new players will come anyway. So not a ghost town in the making, but for the rest only time wll tell.

Garet1337 · Aug 29, 2010, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Thx for ur post mintha (: I might survive if a couple dervs leave but
it would b nice if some decent monks stayed xD

Quaker · Aug 29, 2010, 02:09 PM // 14:09

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Originally Posted by Garet1337

What will happen in about a year after gw 2 comes out? Will gw 1 still even be playable? Will anet just give up on gw

As above - we don't know, and won't know until it happens. My best guess is that you won't see any updates to GW1 anymore, because, at that point, ANet will have no reason to keep people playing GW1. The only reason to keep people playing now, is to keep their fan base until GW2 comes out.
Keep in mind that GW1 was based (financially) on the idea of selling "Campaigns" at regular intervals, and I would assume that GW2 will be the same (unless they decide at some point to start work on GW3

) They gain no financial benefit from simply having people online - no monthly fee.
So, unless they turn GW1 into more of a micro-transactioned model, there is really no incentive for them to continue spending time and resources on it.

They may keep GW1 running for a fairly long time though (without updates), if the drain on resources is low enough.

TheodenKing · Aug 29, 2010, 02:18 PM // 14:18

No one is telling you to buy gw2 out of loyalty. But don't you think you'd want to look into gw2 before you make that decision? Sure, it might be something that doesn't live up to the hype. On the other hand, it might be (in terms of popularity) one of the biggest MMOs of the next decade. You are entitled to shun Anet. Nobody will care except maybe the people you've befriended in the game.

I for one, like gw more than the other online games I've played for a number of reasons. Does it have issues? Of course. They've done plenty I didn't like. But compare it to anything else out there. You won't find a perfect game or design team, or support team. It does not exist. What these guys/gals did that set them apart, is create a business model that attracted people that don't like pay-to-play. And they did it successfully.

As for what will happen to gw, I would expect they will devote lesser resources to it than they are currently, but still proportionate to the needs. There likely won't be any new content in gw once gw2 is released. Skill balances will be minimal. Customer support will hopefully be even better, because even though they may have a few less bodies in the chairs, there will be dramatically less players.

I don't think gw will be abandoned by Anet in the near future, as they've tied things into the game such as HoM. That means that to some extent, in order to keep the gw2 customer base content, gw must still be a viable game (at least for pve).

Fate Crusher · Aug 29, 2010, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by Garet1337

let's say I bought idk Halo and Halo 2 and I didn't like them, I should still buy the rest of the Halo series just cause it's a new game and not judge em on how the previous games were? Maybe I should see the new twilight movies coming out and not judge cause the first look like they r made for preteen girls...

Lets say, Bungy promised a completely different Halo franchise that brought a completely new style of gameplay and an MMORPG feel. Lets say the Director of the next Twilight film decided to kill off everyone, fast forward 250 years and create the next best Underworld-type vampire film.

Fail analogy is fail, you're comparing different scenarios. GW2 will be have a completely different feel and gameplay than GW1. First example, level cap will be 80. On top of that, Anet have accepted where they have gone wrong and is the reason why they have their entire studio (bar 5/6) working on the project.

Back to the actual question. I wouldn't be surprised if Anet decide to continue GW1 alive as much as they can because of title grinds and their worth in Gw2. But I equally wouldn't be surprised if they shut down GW1 after a few months of GW2 to allow players to focus more on GW2 achievements/progression, rather than fapping around GW1 for the possible unlockable-uber-awesome-GW1-hairband.

If they're smart, they'll keep GW1 alive for as long as possible to keep everyone happy. After all, no one's going to be annoyed with a game their not actively playing.

Spookii · Aug 29, 2010, 03:48 PM // 15:48

I've heard that they'll update (as often or less often than they do now) and still do the annual festivals (with hats) but that's about it. Don't ask where I heard it, it's been so long ago that I can't remember.

And as far as everyone telling him that his reasoning for not buying Guild Wars 2 isn't good enough...rofl. This is a Q&A thread, not a 'debate useless topics' thread. If he doesn't want to buy it because pink bunnies don't play a starring role in the storyline, it's his opinion. Answer his question and go rage elsewhere.

:}

Hope I helped!

Garet1337 · Aug 29, 2010, 04:20 PM // 16:20

Spook idk u but I love u man

Ellix Cantero · Aug 29, 2010, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Divine Ashes

People will still play and the servers will no doubt still be up

This is an NCSoft published title we're talking about. The servers will be yanked as soon as they feel they've made all the money they can from the game.

Anybody pointing out that "the devs" said the servers would remain up--that was one of the guys who left.

own age myname · Aug 29, 2010, 05:34 PM // 17:34

GW1 will be like Diablo II. It will be up as long as people keep playing. It will get periodically updated. Plus Anet will still hold festivals, which I know I will still come back too.

(On a side note: Anet is probably one of the most customer friendly companies out there. I don't know why you don't like them...)

Chrisworld · Aug 29, 2010, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by Ellix Cantero

This is an NCSoft published title we're talking about. The servers will be yanked as soon as they feel they've made all the money they can from the game.

Anybody pointing out that "the devs" said the servers would remain up--that was one of the guys who left.

I'll be right here on Guru waiting for you to say "I was wrong" the day GW2 comes out and GW1's servers are still running for years after. I await your PM.

Aug 29, 2010, 05:50 AM // 05:50	#1
Garet1337 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2009 Guild: We Got Ogden Resign [plOx] Profession: A/W	What will happen to gw1? I'm probably not going to buy gw 2 because I don't agree with some of anets choices with gw 1 ( like removing half of PvP ) and don't feel like spending another $200 + just to see that happen again. I just came back to guild wars a little bit ago and noticed the server problems and ( me being a PvPer ) how dead the game is becoming. What will happen in about a year after gw 2 comes out? Will gw 1 still even be playable? Will anet just give up on gw ( skill balances, game fixes, take servers down ) To all of u buying gw 2 good luck and I hope anet doesn't screw you over like they have me Sorry if someone has posted this b4/ if I posted this in the wrong section. Did this on my iPod and didn't feel like zooming in

Aug 29, 2010, 06:56 AM // 06:56	#2
Missing HB Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2010 Guild: Anna Profession: A/	Looking at the number of updates since 2008 , i don't really think gw1 will be changed much after gw2 is released. And , considering the updates we're getting in gw1 pvp , i'd suggest to only play pve in gw2 ( dervish update coming soon , which will for sure not change anything in pvp ..)

Aug 29, 2010, 07:01 AM // 07:01	#3
Divine Ashes Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chicago Guild: LFG Profession: R/	First off, your reason for not wanting Guild Wars 2 is a fallacy. Hero Battles and Team Arenas were removed for good reason, and although they were replaced with something not as great (....Codex....), you can't expect that the same thing will happen with Guild Wars 2. Also, if something like that WERE to happen in GW2, it wouldn't be until years after release...and I'd say a game that you can play consistently and be entertained with for 2, 3, 4, or even 5 years is well worth the measly 200$ (don't even know about GW2 expansions yet, so 200$ may be completely off anyways). That being said, Guild Wars is an old game. I imagine it would end up being a little like Diablo 2, which even after a decade of servers being up is still running and still being updated (although very sporadically). People will still play and the servers will no doubt still be up, although the PvP community would no doubt be rather dead. I imagine people would still play to get HoM accomplishments to transfer to GW2 (depends on the rewards, really), just to play the storyline, participate in the tourneys, title grind, etc. It's still a good game, and is balanced well enough that it will have lasting appeal for years to come, even if there are rarely any more updates.

Aug 29, 2010, 07:25 AM // 07:25	#4
Franksalot Academy Page Join Date: May 2009 Guild: CROW Profession: D/	blah blah not buying gw2 cause of the state of gw1 even though its a totally different game and now gw1 is dead... wish people would stop spouting this out -_- Judge GW2 for GW2 and there are still many many people playing GW1 thread is pointless close it.

Aug 29, 2010, 10:00 AM // 10:00	#6
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	GW1 was always meant to be played for a while and then left for other games while the taste was still good. Everyone who plays it when he's already bored with it (including me, can't give the bloody thing up...) is essentially playing it wrong.

Aug 29, 2010, 10:25 AM // 10:25	#7
TheodenKing Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: DoA Guild: Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk) Profession: N/Me	OP: Maybe you can trade your gw account on runescape. Get over it, dude. Some things didn't work, some things did. Overall they did a great job with gw. What they've released about gw2 so far has most of us excited. But in the end, until we play it, we won't really know if it will be worth it.

Aug 29, 2010, 12:48 PM // 12:48	#8
LoneManWolf Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2009 Profession: Mo/	personally i agree with the op i won't ever purchase another ncsoft/anet game ever again aion looked like fun but just b/c it was made by that crappy company i refuse to purchase it they lost me with their horrible service 3 1/2 weeks to get my account password back with every single proof they required given the first 2 hours... 3 1/2 weeks... fail the service of the company is crap as far as the ingame updates and such... personally i think they have shot this game to shit

Aug 29, 2010, 12:53 PM // 12:53	#9
Garet1337 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2009 Guild: We Got Ogden Resign [plOx] Profession: A/W	I like how really only 2 people actualy answer the question xD my opinion is my opinion and this isn't a how will gw 2 do thread, but still I like peoples reasoning... so I guess if I didn't like Microsoft I should still buy their next version of windows instead of moving to apple? If I had a problem with gw 1 i would stop playing it, it's not the game I don't like it's the company . Of course there are other reasons I'm not getting it like I wouldn't b able to invest much time into the game cause of school and work. So can we actualy go back to the question about gw 1?

Aug 29, 2010, 01:06 PM // 13:06	#10
Garet1337 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2009 Guild: We Got Ogden Resign [plOx] Profession: A/W	oh just thought I'd throw this in there since people r still going to talk about not buying a franchise based on previous games, let's say I bought idk Halo and Halo 2 and I didn't like them, I should still buy the rest of the Halo series just cause it's a new game and not judge em on how the previous games were? Maybe I should see the new twilight movies coming out and not judge cause the first look like they r made for preteen girls...

Aug 29, 2010, 02:09 PM // 14:09	#12
Garet1337 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2009 Guild: We Got Ogden Resign [plOx] Profession: A/W	Thx for ur post mintha (: I might survive if a couple dervs leave but it would b nice if some decent monks stayed xD

Aug 29, 2010, 02:18 PM // 14:18	#14
TheodenKing Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: DoA Guild: Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk) Profession: N/Me	No one is telling you to buy gw2 out of loyalty. But don't you think you'd want to look into gw2 before you make that decision? Sure, it might be something that doesn't live up to the hype. On the other hand, it might be (in terms of popularity) one of the biggest MMOs of the next decade. You are entitled to shun Anet. Nobody will care except maybe the people you've befriended in the game. I for one, like gw more than the other online games I've played for a number of reasons. Does it have issues? Of course. They've done plenty I didn't like. But compare it to anything else out there. You won't find a perfect game or design team, or support team. It does not exist. What these guys/gals did that set them apart, is create a business model that attracted people that don't like pay-to-play. And they did it successfully. As for what will happen to gw, I would expect they will devote lesser resources to it than they are currently, but still proportionate to the needs. There likely won't be any new content in gw once gw2 is released. Skill balances will be minimal. Customer support will hopefully be even better, because even though they may have a few less bodies in the chairs, there will be dramatically less players. I don't think gw will be abandoned by Anet in the near future, as they've tied things into the game such as HoM. That means that to some extent, in order to keep the gw2 customer base content, gw must still be a viable game (at least for pve).

Aug 29, 2010, 03:48 PM // 15:48	#16
Spookii Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southeast, USA Profession: N/	I've heard that they'll update (as often or less often than they do now) and still do the annual festivals (with hats) but that's about it. Don't ask where I heard it, it's been so long ago that I can't remember. And as far as everyone telling him that his reasoning for not buying Guild Wars 2 isn't good enough...rofl. This is a Q&A thread, not a 'debate useless topics' thread. If he doesn't want to buy it because pink bunnies don't play a starring role in the storyline, it's his opinion. Answer his question and go rage elsewhere. :} Hope I helped!

Aug 29, 2010, 04:20 PM // 16:20	#17
Garet1337 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2009 Guild: We Got Ogden Resign [plOx] Profession: A/W	Spook idk u but I love u man

Aug 29, 2010, 05:34 PM // 17:34	#19
own age myname Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Guild: [TAS] Profession: R/	GW1 will be like Diablo II. It will be up as long as people keep playing. It will get periodically updated. Plus Anet will still hold festivals, which I know I will still come back too. (On a side note: Anet is probably one of the most customer friendly companies out there. I don't know why you don't like them...)